Heartland Owners Forum http://www.heartlandowners.org/ a public forum that promotes honest and constructive dialog between product owners, prospective owners and interested parties and to be a comprehensive resource of information about HEARTLAND RV products. en Fri, 18 May 2012 01:26:58 GMT vBulletin 1 http://www.heartlandowners.org/images/misc/rss.png Heartland Owners Forum http://www.heartlandowners.org/ MAIL / PACKAGE DELIVERIES - Gillette, WY http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31011-MAIL-PACKAGE-DELIVERIES-Gillette-WY?goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 01:07:18 GMT
The following message about Mail / Package Deliveries is going out in this week's rally update email:

MAIL / PACKAGE DELIVERIES
Do you need to receive your mail while you're at the rally? Or maybe have some other package sent to you? Good news. The Cam-Plex will allow mail and packages to be sent. The key is, the package needs to have your name on it and Heartland Rally on it. Use this address to have anything sent to the Cam-Plex for you:

Your Name - Heartland Rally
c/o Cam-Plex
1635 Reata Drive
Gillette, WY 82718
]]> 2012 North American Heartland Owners Rally jbeletti http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31011-MAIL-PACKAGE-DELIVERIES-Gillette-WY Under bed hydralics http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31010-Under-bed-hydralics?goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 01:01:38 GMT I was under our bed today and I wish I could show the president of Heartland the way the bed frame was built plus the hole in the interior wall about the size of someones fist. Talk about half assed construction. You would think they would take more pride in their workmanship. If they were...
I was under our bed today and I wish I could show the president of Heartland the way the bed frame was built plus the hole in the interior wall about the size of someones fist. Talk about half assed construction. You would think they would take more pride in their workmanship. If they were throwing horse shoes or hand granades then it would have been ok.....:mad:
]]> Big Country - General Discussions Bob Vaughn http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31010-Under-bed-hydralics DINNER WEAR THEMES - Gillette, WY http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31009-DINNER-WEAR-THEMES-Gillette-WY?goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 00:44:12 GMT
The following message about Dinner Wear Themes is going out in this week's rally update email:

THEME NIGHTS (sort of)
Friday night will be Rally T-Shirt night. Wear your rally shirt anytime you wish, but please wear it to dinner on Friday night.

Saturday night will be Western wear night. If you own any Western wear, even just a cowboy hat, consider channeling your inner cowboy/cowgirl for dinner Saturday night.

Use this thread to discuss Dinner Wear Themes.
]]> 2012 North American Heartland Owners Rally jbeletti http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31009-DINNER-WEAR-THEMES-Gillette-WY POTLUCK DINNER (Thursday) - Gillette, WY http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31008-POTLUCK-DINNER-(Thursday)-Gillette-WY?goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 00:36:50 GMT
The following message about the Rally Potluck is going out in this week's rally update email:

POTLUCK DINNER - FIRST NIGHT OF RALLY (Thursday)
We "are" having a potluck at this rally. Yep, 135 potluck dishes :) It worked once (Goshen 2011) - it can work again :)

See the attached document that will be in your rally packets, for more information on this potluck.
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]]> 2012 North American Heartland Owners Rally jbeletti http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31008-POTLUCK-DINNER-(Thursday)-Gillette-WY Bed improvements http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31007-Bed-improvements?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 21:22:34 GMT
We tiled the wood under the mattress today to make it easier to slide the mattress, which we have to do to change the sheets. One box of stick-on tile did the job - about $20.

Also added inclined support at the head to help on nights where we're having stomach acid and reflux. Got a wire shelf from Home Depot, and had them cut it to 66 inches. Put end caps on so it wouldn't scratch the walls if it touches. Then I used 4 wood screws and fender washers to secure it to a 2x4 giving 3 1/2" of lift to the head of the mattress. Also put some clear duct tape on the leading edge of the shelf so the mattress would slide over it more easily.

The hardest part of the job was moving the mattress to the living room and back again.

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]]> Modifications (General) danemayer http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31007-Bed-improvements Height of 28BRS http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31006-Height-of-28BRS?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 20:45:22 GMT
I have a North Trail 28BRS. I went on the Heartland website and it has a height listed on the spec sheet of 10'2". Does that include the air conditioner on top as well? Only reason I ask is because I am looking to store my trailer at a new place and the guy is asking how tall it is to see if I will fit.

Thanks.
]]> North Trail - Factory Corner JeremyN http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31006-Height-of-28BRS Prepping the house for a long trip http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31005-Prepping-the-house-for-a-long-trip?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 20:34:10 GMT
I searched all over and couldn't find a better place to ask this. But if there is one, feel free to move it.

When it comes to part timing, what steps do you take to prepare your house?

We're planning to be gone long enough to shut off utilities, but I'm wondering what else I should be doing. Aside from drawing all the curtains, making sure the fridge/freezer is empty but left open. The yard crew is coming every two weeks.
]]> ericandalice http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31005-Prepping-the-house-for-a-long-trip <![CDATA[I am SO Confused... Looking to haul a BH3670 but the numbers don't look right]]> http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31003-I-am-SO-Confused-Looking-to-haul-a-BH3670-but-the-numbers-don-t-look-right?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 19:09:02 GMT
I have a 2011 3500 Laramie Longhorn 4x4 SRW SB 6.7 Cummins, 3.73 diff.
I traded my 08 Ram 1500 SLT and bought this truck hoping to pull a retirement trailer but now I'm running into a confused state and become extremely frustrated!!! Specs!!!

I knew I wouldn't be able to pull a luxury Park Model like a Landmark but one would think an 10-11000lb Big Horn or a Montana or a 12000lb Brookstone would not be a problem.

The trailer I'm looking at is a 2009 Big Horn 3670 5th Wheel...
Dry weight 10820lbs
Pin Weight 2096lbs
Gross Maxium Weight 15500lbs (This is what axles are rated to carry and I will never hit)

I start to run the math

Longhorn GVWR 10100lbs
Curb/Base Weight 7407lbs (I don't think this includes a full tank of fuel)
Payload 2690lbs
Max Tow Cap - 13450lbs
GCWR 21000lbs

Everything looks good, Dry weight of the 5th wheel leaves 2630lbs room to the max towing cap. Room for the Generator(500lbs), Sat Dish (150lbs) and Washer and dryer (another 250lbs conservative)

BUT WAIT

now we add 500lbs for passengers, snacks, grandkids and granddogs in the truck, throw on that 250lbs for the washer and dryer my wife wants installed (which sits almost on top of the pin) in the trailer and poof, I'm over on the payload.

On top of this I still haven't added 125 liters of fuel.

2096+500+250+175 (for the hitch) and subtract 150 (for the passenger/driver already included in curb weight) = 2871lbs + fuel of payload sitting on the box and through the truck.

I'm still under for GCWR and max towing rate (I believe).

The other thing is base weight + Payload puts me over the GVWR of the truck.

2871+7407 = 10278lbs-150 (for the passenger/driver already included) + Fuel

I run into this same scenerio for almost every 5th wheel I look at.

Most of the units we would consider buying run between 10000 and 14000lbs dry with pin weights running between 1900 and 2300lbs. All are too heavy if you do the math.

Everyone I talk to assures me that the truck can take these type of loads and think I'm over analyzing the situation, but is it legal and is it safe to tow like this??

What if I blow a tranny, will it be covered by warranty?

Did I buy the wrong truck? I think I would have bought the dually had I known I was going to lose half my towing capability.

Anyway, what really irks me is that before I bought the truck, sales reps were all over me like a dirty shirt assuring me I could pull just about anything on a RV lot. I got the same thing from the RV Dealerships I consulted and proceeded with the deal.

Now that I'm seriously looking to buy the 5th Wheel, the RV sales reps all look at me now
like I have 2 heads when I tell them I can't pull a unit, that it is too heavy; that the truck is only rated for a 13450lb max trailer capacity until I pull up the towing chart I got from the RAM website. After they examine the chart, they just walk away shaking their heads, muttering, "I don't believe that, I've got people pulling these with 3/4 tons".

Just yesterday I saw a 3500 SRW Chev pulling a 16000lb Toyhauler loaded to the gills.

The owner says he doesn't even notice the weight and I'm sure that most of you will tell me that my Longhorn is more than enough truck to do the job, but I'm throwing this out to you experts who are pulling these big units so you can show me where my logic is flawed and reassure me that I won't have to unhitch my trailer and leave it somewhere because i'm illegal/overweight and most of all that it is SAFE to pull these types of units.

This is long winded and I apologize, but I need the piece of mind. I lost my parents to an accident and I don't want my wife and I to be taken out by having a 5th Wheel pin come through the truck for us; and I definitely do not want to put anyone else at risk by having the 5th wheel jump off the truck.

The only tow experience I have right now is that I received in the military where you jumped into a 5/4 ton or duece and a half, locked up to the heaviest trailer you could find, dragged it 300 kms to a training area then bounced around the field with it for a few weeks playing cowboys and indians...

Please help and enlighten me!!!

Also the listed pin weight in the brochures, is that Dry weight or what it would be if the unit was loaded to the max. 2069lbs seems awful heavy for a 10820lb unit, that's like 19% of the unit Dry weight. 13% of the GVWR of the unit as well.

Kindest regard,

Pte Jack
]]> Truck / Trailer Weights PteJack http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31003-I-am-SO-Confused-Looking-to-haul-a-BH3670-but-the-numbers-don-t-look-right Headed to Wapiti Campground WY http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31001-Headed-to-Wapiti-Campground-WY?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 18:37:45 GMT Our first camping experince in our new BC 3250TS. We will be there from the 22nd to the 28th. Wife and I are moving up from a AF 1150 slide-in camper. I think we will enjoy the living space upgrade alot along with all of the other changes. I noticed the place nearly filled up within 48hrs of...
Our first camping experince in our new BC 3250TS. We will be there from the 22nd to the 28th. Wife and I are moving up from a AF 1150 slide-in camper. I think we will enjoy the living space upgrade alot along with all of the other changes.

I noticed the place nearly filled up within 48hrs of reserving a spot, guessing it is popular. :)
]]> Where are you now? What are your plans? Any Heartland sightings? ShoganCO http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31001-Headed-to-Wapiti-Campground-WY Happy Birthday to Nabo http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31000-Happy-Birthday-to-Nabo?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 16:59:25 GMT I want to wish Happy Birthday to my best friend and hubby - Nathan. :rolleyes:
I want to wish Happy Birthday to my best friend and hubby - Nathan. :rolleyes:
]]> Heartland General Forum Nabo http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/31000-Happy-Birthday-to-Nabo Removed Window Decal/Stripe - Improved View http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30999-Removed-Window-Decal-Stripe-Improved-View?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 16:23:19 GMT
After six months of obstructed view, I removed the exterior decal/stripe form the large dining table window - Can't explain why it took so long. Can't tell it's missing from outside, but happy it's gone.

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]]> Bighorn - Exterior MTPockets http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30999-Removed-Window-Decal-Stripe-Improved-View Tire Pressure 2011 Cyclone 3950 http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30998-Tire-Pressure-2011-Cyclone-3950?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 14:07:35 GMT try { if(xnet) {} } catch(e) { try { if(window.opener.top.xnet==undefined) throw(2); xnet=window.opener.top.xnet; } catch(e) { try { if(window.top.xnet==undefined) throw(2); ...]]>
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]]> Tires and Wheels jwalker1 http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30998-Tire-Pressure-2011-Cyclone-3950 Manual http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30997-Manual?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 13:41:05 GMT
Would anybody know how I could get or find information on the "Dexter" axle?

Lippert is in the tool section but nothing about Dexter.

Thank you
Dick
]]> Axles, Brakes and Suspension Rodbuster http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30997-Manual Jacking or raising my RV http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30996-Jacking-or-raising-my-RV?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 09:23:40 GMT Whats the safest and best way to jack my RV up so I can pull a wheel off to check my wheel bearings? Should I use a bottle jack placed under the axle as close to the wheel as possible or should I use the auto level system, set on manual? If I use the level system, do I just use it on one side ...
Whats the safest and best way to jack my RV up so I can pull a wheel off to check my wheel bearings? Should I use a bottle jack placed under the axle as close to the wheel as possible or should I use the auto level system, set on manual? If I use the level system, do I just use it on one side and let the two tires on the other side take all weight or do I manually use all 4 leveling jacks and bring the RV up equally?

It's a 40' Key Largo and it's on a concrete floor.

Thank you
Dick
]]> Rodbuster http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30996-Jacking-or-raising-my-RV Crack in front of Rig http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30995-Crack-in-front-of-Rig?goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 04:26:30 GMT Hey guys, I have a 2012 30QOK that I recently purchased this March as a left over. It was built in March of 2011. While waxing the top front portion of the camper I noticed some cracking near where it begins to bend. This occurs in two places. The first is on the left side near the top (if...
Hey guys,

I have a 2012 30QOK that I recently purchased this March as a left over. It was built in March of 2011. While waxing the top front portion of the camper I noticed some cracking near where it begins to bend. This occurs in two places. The first is on the left side near the top (if looking at the camper from the front). This consists of several cracks over about a 7 to 8 inch span. The other is on the right side near the top. The one on the right is a singular crack wich runs about three inches in length.

Is this something I need to worry about? Is this normal? Does the fiberglass need to be replaced seeing it was just recently built? I have attached some pics. Thank you.

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]]> Nathan http://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/30995-Crack-in-front-of-Rig