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    Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    We're looking at purchasing a 3/4 ton pickup in the next year. We had planned to wait until the 2011 models came out but with Ford offering $6,000 in rebates, it makes the 2010 hard to pass up.

    We've found a F-250 Extended Cab 4x2 (9600# GVWR) that we like. As this will be a 'daily driver' as much as a TV, we've decided not to go with the extra expense and lower fuel mileage of the 4x4.

    However, wanting to purchase a Sundance 3300QS with a hitch weight of 1965, I don't want to be sorry we didn't wait for the 2011 models and their higher payload capacity.

    I'm looking for thoughts only on the 2010 F-250 vs the capabilities of the 2011 GM or Ford models.

    Please don't tell me to get a 4x4 or go up to a 1-ton, as that is not the advice I am looking for. We have decided on the 3/4 ton 4x2 truck and will downscale our choice in a FW if necessary.

    What would you do if faced with these choices?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    If the 2010 model I was looking at DID NOT have the urea tank, I would buy that one.
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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    Nope, no urea on the 2010 models. We debated that issue too, but don't really see that as a problem. As little as we'll drive the truck (until we get the FW) one tank of urea will probably last at least a year. 2011 models are supposed to see improved fuel mileage tho that should way outpace the cost of urea.

    So, other than the inconvenience and cost of the urea - why wouldn't you want it?

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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    You mentioned rebates on the 2010 Ford, but I just wanted to share my truck buying experience. I'm in Canada, so it may be a bit different for you.

    When I mentioned to my cousin that I was going to buy a new truck, he referred me to www.carcostcanada.com which will give you pricing information on the particular vehicle you are looking to buy including various options. It will tell you the dealer cost of the vehicle including the options, and then takes into account all of the current rebate programs that Ford has available to you, and its dealers, some of which you don't know about. You also didn't know about the dealer cost. It then tells you how to negotiate a fair price, taking it all into account, and giving the dealer a reasonable markup which I recall was something like 3 to 5%. So the formula is dealer cost, less rebates + 3 to 5%. There are also other payments that Ford may give to the dealer after the sale, which aren't taken into account, but that means you should stick firm with your offer, or try to negotiate something even better. It also provides you with a dealer who will sell it to you for that price (if they have one).

    So I was a bit skeptical, but when I went to the dealership to negotiate I told the salesperson I had the carcostcanada report, which I gave to him, and told him what I was willing to pay (this is what they tell you to do). There was a small bit of haggling, but we had a deal within 25 minutes, and I got what I think was a great deal. I suspect there is something similar in the US, which anyone buying a new vehicle should consider using. It was a small fee for the report.

    One could potentially get the same great deal without it, but I don't know how I would have without the report. It meant I got a discount of 20% off the MSRP as Ford had great rebates last fall. I missed out on some of the advertised ones as I delayed my purchasing decision, but the next month they were still there, but to the dealer, not to the consumer so they weren't advertised. It will depend on what Ford is offering at the time.

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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    I just saw this on the internet and was a little surprised. Prior to my current GMC, I've always had Fords. Scroll down to #5

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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    If you're going to buy this year, then I would buy the 2010. You probably know that 2011 is a new, ground-up, engine design from Ford and early adopters usually get the brunt of the problems. My 2009 SD pulls like it has towing in it's DNA, and with 7K miles has been trouble-free. You can expect the DPF to regen once per tankful when towing, and about once every 400-600 miles when not towing. Short bed needs a bigger fuel supply, but long bed tank holds more. If you can wait a year or two, then the engine might be proven technology and worth the wait.

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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    I've done all the research here in the US, know the dealer invoice and all the option pricing, so should we decide to purchase this truck, I already have a price offer set. I'd like to find the historic rebate info - we've been out of the truck buying market since '02. (We keep our trucks a long time) If I could reasonably think we could get a similar rebate on the '11, I'd wait a year to buy. But I'm wondering if we really *need* that extra 300# load capacity. We're had planned to look at both the Ford and Chevy trucks, with a load capacity of about 3000# compared to the 2700 on the '10.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave012 View Post
    You mentioned rebates on the 2010 Ford, but I just wanted to share my truck buying experience. I'm in Canada, so it may be a bit different for you.

    One could potentially get the same great deal without it, but I don't know how I would have without the report. It meant I got a discount of 20% off the MSRP as Ford had great rebates last fall. I missed out on some of the advertised ones as I delayed my purchasing decision, but the next month they were still there, but to the dealer, not to the consumer so they weren't advertised. It will depend on what Ford is offering at the time.

    Bottom line, I owe my cousin a big steak, and few beers.

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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    i would look at the chevy 2011 specs on payload etc,i would get 4x4 because it gets muddy in some campgrounds etc,also i would buy the diesel for sure.imho. buckeyebob

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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    I love my 2010 Ford F350, dually, 6.4 L diesel. Wish I could have gotten a $6000 rebate but got the cash for clunkers stuff instead. Personally I would go with the 2010 or wait a couple of years until the new engine is proven. Also I don't like the Urea tank thing.
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    Re: Take the $6,000 rebate or wait on 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by dalspot View Post
    We're looking at purchasing a 3/4 ton pickup in the next year. We had planned to wait until the 2011 models came out but with Ford offering $6,000 in rebates, it makes the 2010 hard to pass up.

    We've found a F-250 Extended Cab 4x2 (9600# GVWR) that we like. As this will be a 'daily driver' as much as a TV, we've decided not to go with the extra expense and lower fuel mileage of the 4x4.

    However, wanting to purchase a Sundance 3300QS with a hitch weight of 1965, I don't want to be sorry we didn't wait for the 2011 models and their higher payload capacity.

    I'm looking for thoughts only on the 2010 F-250 vs the capabilities of the 2011 GM or Ford models.

    Please don't tell me to get a 4x4 or go up to a 1-ton, as that is not the advice I am looking for. We have decided on the 3/4 ton 4x2 truck and will downscale our choice in a FW if necessary.

    What would you do if faced with these choices?

    Thanks.

    Hi I have a 2009 Chev 2500HD Duramax 4x4 with a 9200# GVWR. I am really happy with this vehicle. I am still looking for a TH, but everything I have read says that the 2500HD D/A with Air Bags will tow (please no flames or weight police, that's not the issue) most of the rigs that are discussed on this forum. Back to your question, as I mentioned I'm really happy with my truck. I have a friend with a Ford diesel and he's really envious of my diesel MPG. I get 16.7 regularly in city driving, as its my daily driver and 20-22 on the highway. I only tow my boat (so far) which weighs about 7K#, then I get around 12-14 MPG. My only point of comparison is my friend's Ford F350 SRW Diesel which he tells me gets 10-12MPG in city and 9-10MPG towing. I figured that over the course of a year the difference in diesel cost for me would be 2500HD=20500miles/16MPG*$2.99=$3830.93 vs F350=20500/12*$2.99=5107.91
    I'm currently looking at the GM 2011 models for the higher towing capacity (Yes, I am concerned with safety). The 2500HD will be able tow a lot more and the SRW 3500HD will tow 17K# which is pretty good. Supposedly they will also get 18 Percent better fuel mileage. So if you can wait and/or afford to pay more you might benefit in the long run by buying a 2011 model year, Ford, Chevy or Dodge. The difference in fuel savings might actually be a break even point (especially since diesel just went up $0.40 a gallon over the past two weeks.)

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