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    Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    So I've read lots of posts on various issues and some get close, but I haven't solve it yet. This really is a tow part issue all related to the Lippert hydraulics, but may not be anything wrong with the hydraulics package itself.

    The coach is a 2015 Bighorn 3875FB. The issue only exists when retracting the slides OR the 6 point leveling. I have a Victron BMS that indicates I'm drawing approx. 18 amps when extending and closer to 40 amps when retracting the slides. Voltage never drops below 12.7. I just installed (2) new 6 volt golf cart batteries to replace the OEM 12 volt set. All connections were checked. None loose. Relative to the slide part of the issue, and this one doesn't make sense to me. When I run the slides with the rocker switch inside the coach, they will stop 2-3 times during the retraction process. Waiting for 5 seconds or so and they will continue. I have replaced both of the 50 amp auto reset breakers that are inline with this circuit recently also. If I run the slides with the Lippert remote control it extends/retracts fine???

    As far as the 6 point level system goes, which operates on the same hydraulic package, when I do an "auto retract" at the panel, it will drop out 3-4 times during the retraction process. The panel will go black and then the red LED's on the panel will flash once. I can power up the panel and hit auto retract again, and the same situation will occur. I'm beginning to wonder if the power to the Lippert panel runs through another auto reset breaker that is failing killing the panel?

    Well there it is in a BIG nutshell. Anyone care to wade in? Thx.
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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    Don,

    I'd guess if you trace the wires from the battery you'll find another breaker that hasn't yet been replaced. It's also possible that a replacement breaker was not up to the job. That recently happened to me.

    The difference between switch/remote operation is harder to explain. You may have a switch with a marginal connection, separate from any breaker problems.

    Btw, 18-40 amp draw sounds pretty light.


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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    Ya as Dan said.

    I would first check your ground to the frame. Remove it grind off the paint and reconnect.

    Next I would bypass the factory junk 50amp and install a 80amp Auto reset breaker with new 4gauge wire straight from the batteries to the breaker and then from the breaker straight to the pump solenoid.

    You will never have another problem with it again !!!

    The picture is of a 25amp

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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    Quote Originally Posted by uncledon View Post
    I'm drawing approx. 18 amps when extending and closer to 40 amps when retracting the slides.
    I too draw a lot when using slides or level up. I draw closer to 60 amps though. I installed an 80 amp manual reset breaker and #4 wire from battery to pump. I think that’s the only permeant fix. 50 amps doesn’t work very good on 60 amps of draw. I elected a manual reset breaker because sometimes I’ll trip the breaker manually while camp to disengage the front landing gear switch.


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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    Our '16 does the same thing, the previous owner documented it here when the unit was new. Been doing it ever since. The dealer I got it from replaced all the breakers and put in an double 50AMP. still doeas it.
    Mine only does it if you hold the button after the hydraulics end their cycle. I
    ts been doing it for I figure 4+ years and hasnt stopped working yet. I'm just going with it. Minor inconvenience.
    But I will be following to see if you can fix it.
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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    Yes Jerrod, I've already got the 80A auto reset breaker in my basket on Amazon. I have yet to find the cables in the right length. I know others have made this mod. I was trying to verify the full load rating for the pump motor before going to this option. Does anyone know this number? Thx.
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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    uncledon,

    I have always had the same problem on my 2015 365 Newport. When I retract the 6-point leveling system while on 12v power, my system shuts off several times during the process giving me a "Low Voltage" error message on my display. Power off the system and then immediately power it back up, then hit retract and it starts retracting again. I go through this process 3 or 4 times until the legs are fully retracted. It does not do it while extending the legs nor when I have shore power on. So I've just learned to always bring my legs up before unplugging from shore power.

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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    uncledon - check this page out: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QSTZYV/

    Be mindful also of the hole size you need in the lugs on the cables.
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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    Quote Originally Posted by klindgren View Post
    uncledon,

    I have always had the same problem on my 2015 365 Newport. When I retract the 6-point leveling system while on 12v power, my system shuts off several times during the process giving me a "Low Voltage" error message on my display. Power off the system and then immediately power it back up, then hit retract and it starts retracting again. I go through this process 3 or 4 times until the legs are fully retracted. It does not do it while extending the legs nor when I have shore power on. So I've just learned to always bring my legs up before unplugging from shore power.

    Keith
    Thanks for the reply Keith. It makes no difference if I'm on shore power or not. Still does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbeletti View Post
    uncledon - check this page out: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QSTZYV/

    Be mindful also of the hole size you need in the lugs on the cables.
    Thanks Dan. I placed my order today for all the stuff I'll need to convert to 80A. Thx.
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    Re: Let's visit this again...Lippert 6 point leveling issue

    Hi folks, I also have this problem; I just changed out the breakers on the fuss bar with 50 amp breakers...made the mistake of telling my wife the start and stop problems were fixed. She obviously commended in a snarky way stating “thought you fixed it”. Anyway I have followed this topic...almost to the just live with it solution as long as we get the jacks up or the level up system eventually does its job.

    somewhat confused as to adding the additional 80 amp breaker. Where?

    included a photo of my system.

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