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I don't disagree with them venting better or that they might be better for boondocking. We all agree on that, and we're not argueing that. My point was, and still is, I'm guessing the vast majority of buyers, like Jeeps that dont go offroad, don't boondock with their $110k Corian countertop /...

That's why they have 3 ACs...

I never once said Cyclone was low end. I said they're still using the same windows low end units use. I stand by that. Boondocking is great if that's your thing, but I'm guessing these are alot like SUVs. The vast majority never use them that way. I still think AJ's choice is wrong and...

I wedged and glued 2" Pink foam board under our 2010 the summer after we bought it 11 seasons ago. It's worked well.

Kimber Micro 9

First mod I've done to every camper....a 3rd valve as a safety stop. LOL.

Love the table idea. Can you share more details?

Heartland should really consider making that 2nd bathroom an option. Alot of us dont want or need it.

Obviously not when the vast majority of offerings has moved on to them. Heartland use to say they stopped making outdoor entertainment areas because no one wanted them too. Now it seems all the rage. At the very least, as a product manager, you should recognize the trend and make it an option...

Anyone notice when shopping that only the low end toyhaulers are still using the cheap dirt collecting framed windows? Everyone else, Voltage, Raptor, Momentum, Vengeance, Seismic, Venom, Fuzion, XLR, Spartan...they all use frameless now. When is Heartland going to conceed and start using them too.

Here's what you need for a grill.

We put out P1000-5 in the back of our CY3612. Fits ok. We have the older style larger loft, so I have to pull in till the lightbar on the roof nearly kisses the loft. From there I have 3-4" of clearance in the back. No problems here. The newer floor plans don't have the queen lofts, so they...

Who makes that version?

Awesome! Thanks for the help! I'll look into it.

Who can tell me what is the best resort in Branson Missouri to stay at and why? Not really looking for a campground.

Any pics? Looking specifically for the wall clearance in the bedroom to the wall on the one side.

We don't ride in ours... Unless you changed windows since 2010 versions, mine hardly fit the frames let alone seal well. The screens have huge gaps in them also. So leaving them open just let's bugs work their way in. I don't believe frameless would be any worse. Also, if they're such poor...

My 2010 Cyclone is cracking and now starting to peel. Makes the rig look old old. Not sure what to do. If I get it stripped, I'd like to have the swirls painted on. Forget decals...

Admittedly possible, but I doubt that's true. I suspect most owners aren't boondocking in their toyhaulers very often, if at all. How else do we explain away the trend towards residential refrigerators in all new Cyclones. People aren't boondocking with those I'm guessing. Do only Cyclone users...

I agree. I've said for a long time now that they moved away from the "Landmark of Toyhaulers" and muddied the waters with the different competing Heartland brands. When we bought back in 2010, the Cyclone was the king of the hill. A few short years later, and they were just another toyhauler in...

I'd have that axle re-ached before replacing it...there's nothing wrong with it. I had my axles tweaked for tire alignment issues. None of them were quite right from the factory.

We're not crazy about the lack of walking space around the bed. It's an awesome floorplan cursed with a few glitches.

Cyclone was an industry leader when we bought. They were the Landmark of toyhaulers. The highest quality coach short of a custom. However, they've lost alot of ground in recent years to the "me to" competition and brand dilution within Heartland. We still love our Cyclone, and want to stay with...

Different strokes for different folks for sure. In our case, I prefer the window actually fit well and look like they belong on a $1000k+ coach. We rarely open our windows. All these tracks do is collect grit and grime. So I'd prefer something clean with a high end look like a motorhome or even...

Yeah I saw that too. Needs some work really. I would put an extension in there that comes out 90 degrees for cooking on.

AJ, One of our biggest hang ups with stepping into a new Cyclone over a Fuzion is the frameless windows. Our 2010 windows are cheaply made, and have an extremely poor quality fit. Enough to warrant an arguement with ones self when trying to close them. Additionally, the plastic seal around the...

The 427 is a neat flooplan, but has only a few things in common with the 4005, and otherwise misses many of the features. Outdoor kitchen being one of the more obvious things. I prefer to get the ladder for the loft into the garage area also. I want entertainment area in our next one where we...

Yes I've seen those. Neither of those have windows on the door side that would overlook our lake. Also none of them have any entertainment area where people can sit across from each other and talk. I love the slide in the slide idea but other than that I'm not impressed.

Looks pretty slick. I may be in the market instead of other options I've considered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwJBJF6jlI

True, but the filon has yellowed some as well. You can see a shade difference in the skirting and the sides.

Benn talking with them since this post started. They finally quoted it. $11,000. It is cheaper than a new rig, but would be a heck of a down payment on one. Loving that new Cyclone 4005 floorplan.

Sigh...I figured as much. Wonder who they contract to. I could possibly use them. I considered a wrap, although I've never seen a wrap that was worth a woot, and frankly I'm sure it would look just as bad in 5-6 years. My pontoon is wrapped from the factory and it has wrinkled in spots. I want...

I recall some time back reading about a batch of decals that had manufacturing issues. My 2010 (doesn't seem that old to me, but it is I guess) has had decal issues for probably the last 3 or 4 summers. This summer is really bad. All the blue ones started to fade or color run about 4 years ago...

It lives in Michigan. Not much heat or blazing sun here. People have cleared over filon before. That's not new. It wouldn't be the same work to clear it versus full body paint. Fb paint has the added work of taping amd masking for every color change in the stripes. It's a huge job. There's a...

I've heard that. I also read they had a bad spell of decals around 2010 also. Seems like an expensive option to go. Perhaps removing them for paint is a better idea. IDK...it's troubling. Do you know if Heartland offers a clear coat instead of full paint? I wonder if that would get the benefits...

I've had decal issues for some time now, probably 3 years easy, but it's just now getting to be a problem I'm not sure I can live with. Decals all over the coach have shrank leaving a grey (backing?) bordering around the stripes. A very weird thing. The door decal shrank so much that it's...

I used foam board too, but if I had to do it over again, I'd have it sprayed. I think it would turn out better, and would be far less work. To each his own though for sure.

The floor plan outline looks like a 4100 King.

Re: Lippert Aluminum Quad Step I didn't see alot of improvement with my MorRyde swap. I had a fairly decent ride though anyway with the air bags. No bucking with those. I did help a touch with chucking. The cover can't be used in it's current form. I've seen some folks cut and hack to get it to...

Wait...yer not suppose to do that? :)