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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    I realize this may be a stretch but could a class A seal up enough that a stove burner or oven burn long enough to create enough CO and CO2 to snuff out the fire? The news article said the folks hadn't been heard from in a couple days.
    My wondering is if they expired from the CO but the Propane odor was from the flame being choked out later
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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    While the deaths in Nashville are sad, and regardless of the true cause of death, I believe every comment here has been productive as it gets us all talking about these safety devices in our RVs and the need to test them regularly. I'll admit to rarely testing mine. But I did yesterday.

    The LP gas leak cause of death theory discussed here may be spot on - or not. But my takeaway from that: Go test your LP Gas detector. I didn't test mine yesterday when I tested my smoke and co detectors. So - this has been added to my to do list today.

    Let's keep this conversation going so it stays in the What's New for a while. I've yet to check the other thread I started about testing - hoping for lively chat there too.

    Duane and John - I appreciate your comments here as you guys have specialized training in this area. We can all benefit from your knowledge. Thank you for sharing.
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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    You can remove the LP Detector from the wall and check the date of manufacture on it. Most detectors have a useful life of 5 - 7 years from that date, not the installed date. But there is no guarantee on that 5 years, either. The butane lighter test is a good one, as is having a portable gas detector in your tool kit, like the one sold by Lorest.

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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    This would be something else to add to the checklist for folks buying a used trailer. Some of the detectors are battery powered, others are hard wired. Easy to check before buying.
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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    Quote Originally Posted by jbeletti View Post

    The LP gas leak cause of death theory discussed here may be spot on - or not. But my takeaway from that: Go test your LP Gas detector. I didn't test mine yesterday when I tested my smoke and co detectors. So - this has been added to my to do list today.
    Jim, exactly my point for mentioning that CO is not the only hazard we face in these confined spaces. All detectors are there for a purpose and it is just as important to check/maintain as the other critical areas of our coaches.
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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou_and_Bette View Post
    Jim, exactly my point for mentioning that CO is not the only hazard we face in these confined spaces. All detectors are there for a purpose and it is just as important to check/maintain as the other critical areas of our coaches.
    Lou - I think at many of our rallies this year, we should at minimum, ask attendees the question "When was the last time you tested your RV's Smoke, CO and LPG detectors". No show of hands, just a reminder in the form of a question. Then ask it again the next day and ask who found a failure and/or dead batteries - if anyone cares to share. Just to help make the point to everyone there - not to single the brave one out.

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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    I want to add another important safety point to this discussion: being aware of what is happening around you and taking action. This past weekend at the Florida Rally, Jack and I were walking back to our rig after potluck dinner. I Heard an alarm going off in the vicinity of our BH, not ear piercing becuz Jack couldn't hear it except at close range, but it was high pitched and steady beep. Discovered it coming from the interior rear of Big Horn backed up to ours. Went back to Rally Hall and alerted owner that he had an alarm sounding. He found a stove knob had apparently been turned on without lighting the burner when his wife was trying to light their oven earlier in the day. There were no windows open and a strong smell of "burnt cabbage".

    There is always possibility of an explosion in this situation that could involve everything in vicinity including human and animal lives. We should also emphasize being aware, taking action, and knowing what to do when propane is involved.
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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    While on the subject of safety and testing, when was the last time you tested (by operating) your emergency exits in your coach? Have you ever had a fire drill? Have you ever tried getting up in the middle of the night and tried opening the emergency exits in the dark. These questions were asked by "Mac the fire guy" at a seminar. I went back an test ours so I would know how to operate them.

    BTW my CO detector is located on a slideout wall beside the theater seating. In order to test it I have to move the theater seat out. What a PITA. What engineer thought about this placement?
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    Re: Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning

    I doubt the effectiveness of these life saving alarms. I would ask ANYONE on the forum who has had the LP alarm or the Carbon Monoxide alarm ring for a TRUE gas in the atmosphere situation to report this on this thread.

    When my rig was new, I had a propane leak in my kitchen area and the propane alarm never rang. I think I have heard similar stories from other forum posters with noticeable (by smell) propane leaks.

    Are there test gas spray cans to TRULY test these alarms??? Just pushing the alarm "test" button just tests the alarm sounder circuit and NOT the gas detectors. In the hospital I retired from, smoke detectors were tested on a schedule with a test gas.

    Maybe prevention is right up there with alarm testing. I have a generator in my truck, keep the truck away from the trailer when using the generator, but have only used the generator about 5 times in 4 years. I now do most of my cooking and space heating with electricity (induction cooktop and electric space heater). My flexible propane supply hose to my kitchen slide is re-enforced against road hazard debris with thick, webbed PVC tubing.

    On the fire safety front, I have installed a self-deploying Halon fire extinguisher in my refrigerator external compartment; have equipped my bedroom window with a fire escape ladder, window hold-open prop and window lower edge pillow; bought a much larger fire extinguisher for the entrance door, and moved the original extinguisher to next to the stovetop.
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