Hello all, first post here, but long time Rver. We just purchased a new RW 413, moved from a 2005 KZ New Vision 41kg. As many of us have had to deal with, all these new coaches are laminated and just not made as well as some of the older stuff.
Walking in the door, the closet or cabinet where the controlpanel is has no light so you can see the controls. This closet is also uselessfor storage as it is too short for a broom or vacuum, plus there are limiteditems one would want to store where the control panel is. The storage area ontop of it is too high to access without a ladder or large step stool.
The residential refrigerator handle hits the cabinet doorson the island under the sink.
The master bedroom is a dungeon. I think it is too small andpoorly designed and laid out.
The mirrors on the wardrobe are useless, you cannot see yourface. And the thought about mirrors giving an open feel…they are in the hallway mostly, so pointless.
This RV has three tv’s…yet the one in the living room, thatis positioned at the poorest viewing point is the ONLY one without anadjustable mounting bracket. My wife hit her head twice on the TV in thebedroom. Poorly thought out.
The ladder to access the loft is too short. My children, 11and 9, cannot get down without assistance to get their feet to the top rung.The trim around the loft is also cheap looking and feeling. I believe this willbreak or get squashed down in the very near future.
The rear bath has no vent. NONE. No way to vent moisture orodor. Our main reason for purchasing this floorplan, and in the end thisproduct was that bathroom. Both of us being RVers since 1991 never even thoughtthere would be no vent in there, so we did not even look. Our fault in the end,your design from the beginning.
The rear bed in the garage only comes down to about facelevel for an average adult. There is no ladder or way of accessing this bed, orlowering it more. This bed platform is also where you store the three tabletops that must be removed from the bed platform and then “set up” in order tobe used. Having no access to this platform makes it difficult to reach thestraps that are there to hold them in place. The large table top is heavy whenyou are tippy toe reaching on to the platform to get it out, holding it up soyou don’t drag it across the trim piece. The door on the floor storage in thegarage is very sharp and sort of heavy as well. It should have a shock of somesort I think.
The controls for AC are very cumbersome. They are this new“touch” style mess. The problem is if you don’t touch it just right it does notwork. You should have a button style on and off with settings that are easy toread and use. Do you know if they can be changed?
Those “zero gravity” stairs are a poor design for the enduser. I had the dealer change them out. Why put water anddirt in your coach?
Do any of you have those and really like them? If so WHY?
W also do not like the house slides. We want to be able to open one slide or he other, not the way it is now with the large one being last.
The two awnings have the 3 foot gap between them. WHY? Ihave seen other models from Heartland with the awnings close as to not have the largegap.
I can see the wood floor material around the edges where theslides come in because the vinyl flooring is not full fitting to cover it. Thisis a major place for leaks/water damage, as you may well know.
I spoke to long time friend who has a grand design momentum,his coach did indeed come with an access ladder for the kids to get into therear bed. He does not have a motorcycle like I do, but says even with his golfcart, He has to raise the front jacks a few inches so it will not scrape goingin. My bike is lower than that golf cart.
We really wish Heartland would just take this thing back, but know this is not going to happen. Any help or input would be good helpful.
Walking in the door, the closet or cabinet where the controlpanel is has no light so you can see the controls. This closet is also uselessfor storage as it is too short for a broom or vacuum, plus there are limiteditems one would want to store where the control panel is. The storage area ontop of it is too high to access without a ladder or large step stool.
The residential refrigerator handle hits the cabinet doorson the island under the sink.
The master bedroom is a dungeon. I think it is too small andpoorly designed and laid out.
The mirrors on the wardrobe are useless, you cannot see yourface. And the thought about mirrors giving an open feel…they are in the hallway mostly, so pointless.
This RV has three tv’s…yet the one in the living room, thatis positioned at the poorest viewing point is the ONLY one without anadjustable mounting bracket. My wife hit her head twice on the TV in thebedroom. Poorly thought out.
The ladder to access the loft is too short. My children, 11and 9, cannot get down without assistance to get their feet to the top rung.The trim around the loft is also cheap looking and feeling. I believe this willbreak or get squashed down in the very near future.
The rear bath has no vent. NONE. No way to vent moisture orodor. Our main reason for purchasing this floorplan, and in the end thisproduct was that bathroom. Both of us being RVers since 1991 never even thoughtthere would be no vent in there, so we did not even look. Our fault in the end,your design from the beginning.
The rear bed in the garage only comes down to about facelevel for an average adult. There is no ladder or way of accessing this bed, orlowering it more. This bed platform is also where you store the three tabletops that must be removed from the bed platform and then “set up” in order tobe used. Having no access to this platform makes it difficult to reach thestraps that are there to hold them in place. The large table top is heavy whenyou are tippy toe reaching on to the platform to get it out, holding it up soyou don’t drag it across the trim piece. The door on the floor storage in thegarage is very sharp and sort of heavy as well. It should have a shock of somesort I think.
The controls for AC are very cumbersome. They are this new“touch” style mess. The problem is if you don’t touch it just right it does notwork. You should have a button style on and off with settings that are easy toread and use. Do you know if they can be changed?
Those “zero gravity” stairs are a poor design for the enduser. I had the dealer change them out. Why put water anddirt in your coach?
Do any of you have those and really like them? If so WHY?
W also do not like the house slides. We want to be able to open one slide or he other, not the way it is now with the large one being last.
The two awnings have the 3 foot gap between them. WHY? Ihave seen other models from Heartland with the awnings close as to not have the largegap.
I can see the wood floor material around the edges where theslides come in because the vinyl flooring is not full fitting to cover it. Thisis a major place for leaks/water damage, as you may well know.
I spoke to long time friend who has a grand design momentum,his coach did indeed come with an access ladder for the kids to get into therear bed. He does not have a motorcycle like I do, but says even with his golfcart, He has to raise the front jacks a few inches so it will not scrape goingin. My bike is lower than that golf cart.
We really wish Heartland would just take this thing back, but know this is not going to happen. Any help or input would be good helpful.