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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

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    UPDATE: Jerry from Lippert is better than advertised! He had me done, start to finish, in 1 hour, 16 minutes (less than his original 90 minute estimate). That included inspecting the other axle to make sure there were no signs of imminent failure. While I haven't towed it anywhere yet, it sure looks better, and Jerry's statement "I wouldn't hesitate to drive this to california tomorrow" made me feel much better.

    Thanks to Lippert for quick service. Now I won't say it didn't take a LOT of follow-up on my part, but if you stay on top of a situation like this, I believe they will go the extra mile to make things right for you.
    I would add the CP system. Great insurance and the ride and stability are worth it. Not to mention strengthening up the center hangers.

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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

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    Same thought here. They dont look like my 8K springs.
    I thought the same thing...they appear to only have six leafs instead of seven, like my 8K springs....
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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

    I was at the HL factory last week, and looked at a couple of piles of axle assembly's. The 7k axles and the 8k axles had the same springs. Only difference I could sees is the 8k had larger brakes. What I couldn't see is maybe the 8k had larger spindles.

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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

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    I was at the HL factory last week, and looked at a couple of piles of axle assembly's. The 7k axles and the 8k axles had the same springs. Only difference I could sees is the 8k had larger brakes. What I couldn't see is maybe the 8k had larger spindles.

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    That's odd...when my 7K springs were replaced with 8K, I went from 6 leafs to 7 leafs....that was done last June right before the Goshen rally.
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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

    Here is a photo of what and 8K should like, The drums are nearly 4 inches as you noted and you can count the spring leafs. The spring plate is heavier and the bolts are 9/16 compared to 1/2 inch.
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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie View Post
    I was at the HL factory last week, and looked at a couple of piles of axle assembly's. The 7k axles and the 8k axles had the same springs. Only difference I could sees is the 8k had larger brakes. What I couldn't see is maybe the 8k had larger spindles.

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    Dave; The 6K,7K,8K axels all use a #42 spindle, The difference is the bearings they use on the spindle. At least thats what Kodiac told me when I put on the disc brakes. Jon
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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

    Hmm, when I looked at the axles I specifically asked about the six leaf springs seen on both the 7k and 8k axles. I was told they were the same for both. 3.5 in brakes were on the 8k axles.
    I agree the the 7 leaf would be prefered.
    Maybe getting them changed out after the fact would yield the 7 leafs.

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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

    Update on the 7k vs 8k springs. I talked to a Lippert guy today and asked about what I saw at the factory.....six leafs on both axles.
    He told me that their 8k spring packs have 7 leafs. Hmm, I told him what I saw and was surprised at his answer.
    Now, I don't know if this is fact, but he told me that HL is using a competitors axles on some models.
    That may explain why the two axles spring packs looked the same. Two different manufacturers.

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    My 6k axles have 4 leafs, but they have almost no arch left. Anyone have a image of correctly arched 6k springs? I have a feeling my axles, which are upgraded are held by 5200 running gear.

    The leaf spring perches should should have coped vertical plates that sit atop the axle like a saddle, these should be fully welded to the axle, however like in the auto industry many axles simple have end welds.

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    Re: 2011 BH Axle Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie View Post
    Update on the 7k vs 8k springs. I talked to a Lippert guy today and asked about what I saw at the factory.....six leafs on both axles.
    He told me that their 8k spring packs have 7 leafs. Hmm, I told him what I saw and was surprised at his answer.
    Now, I don't know if this is fact, but he told me that HL is using a competitors axles on some models.
    That may explain why the two axles spring packs looked the same. Two different manufacturers.

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    That is interesting. When in the past I have tried to find 4K springs, they were not available except through Lippert. Most of the manufactures go to slipper springs when the go over 3.5K due to the light construction of the hangers.

    We do have the Lippert 4K and they seem to be very good springs.

    Thanks for the update.

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